isn't brain surgery

OK, let's try it again.

The war on terror isn't going to be won with or without me, you, the terroists or the USA. Thinking republicans, which are few, agree. It is going to be won with the 2+ billion other people who practice the Islamic faith.

The best we can hope for in Iraq, if not an all out civil war, is a people who hate the invaders more than each other, So Iraq is already lost one way or the other.

If we use torture and lose the other 2+ billion, it will be a thousand years of off and on guerilla warfare, not to mention losing the few friends we currently have left in the world. That's why those like Sen, McCain don't want torture allowed, etc.

"Geesh", it isn't brain surgery.